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'''Source:''' Text-message exchange dated October 1, 2018, between Sarah and Lucas. | '''Source:''' Text-message exchange dated October 1, 2018, between Sarah and Lucas. | ||
== October 1, 2018: Sarah States She Knew a Relationship With Lucas Was Never Going to Happen == | |||
In this message, Sarah explains that she had been in love with Lucas since she was 14 but kept those feelings secret because she believed revealing them could cause her to be removed from James and Lucas’s lives. | |||
Sarah writes: | |||
“I have known for two years it was out of the question not just when I was 16/17 but even after I was 18.” | |||
She then states: | |||
“Greg made it painfully clear multiple times that pigs would fly before I would ever come close to having a chance with you even after my 18th birthday.” | |||
Sarah also says: | |||
“I stayed because you’re my best friend and I love you.” | |||
She explains that she did not begin the friendship for romantic purposes and had originally planned to keep her feelings secret indefinitely. | |||
'''What the message directly shows''' | |||
Sarah states that her romantic feelings toward Lucas originated with her, remained unspoken for years, and were not reciprocated. She also states that James repeatedly made clear that a relationship with Lucas would not happen, including after Sarah became an adult. | |||
'''Why it matters''' | |||
This message directly contradicts the claim that James or Lucas were cultivating Sarah for a future romantic or sexual relationship. Sarah’s own contemporaneous account describes the opposite: she concealed her feelings, expected rejection, and understood that James firmly opposed the possibility of a relationship. | |||
== October 1, 2018: Sarah States She Knew a Relationship With Lucas Was Never Going to Happen == | |||
In this message, Sarah explains that she had been in love with Lucas since she was 14 but kept those feelings secret because she believed revealing them could cause her to be removed from James and Lucas’s lives. | |||
[[File:2018-10-01-Sarah-Says-James-Repeatedly-Rejected-Relationship-With-Lucas.jpg|alt=Screenshot of an October 1, 2018 text exchange in which Sarah says she loved Lucas, knew for years they would not be together, and says James repeatedly rejected the possibility of a relationship.|thumb|In an October 1, 2018 message, Sarah states that she had been in love with Lucas since age 14, knew a relationship would not happen, and says James repeatedly made that clear even after she turned 18.]] | |||
Sarah writes: | |||
“I have known for two years it was out of the question not just when I was 16/17 but even after I was 18.” | |||
She then states: | |||
“Greg made it painfully clear multiple times that pigs would fly before I would ever come close to having a chance with you even after my 18th birthday.” | |||
Sarah also says: | |||
“I stayed because you’re my best friend and I love you.” | |||
She explains that she did not begin the friendship for romantic purposes and had originally planned to keep her feelings secret indefinitely. | |||
'''What the message directly shows''' | |||
Sarah states that her romantic feelings toward Lucas originated with her, remained unspoken for years, and were not reciprocated. She also states that James repeatedly made clear that a relationship with Lucas would not happen, including after Sarah became an adult. | |||
'''Why it matters''' | |||
This message directly contradicts the claim that James or Lucas were cultivating Sarah for a future romantic or sexual relationship. Sarah’s own contemporaneous account describes the opposite: she concealed her feelings, expected rejection, and understood that James firmly opposed the possibility of a relationship. | |||
'''Source''' | |||
Text-message exchange dated October 1, 2018, involving Sarah, Lucas, and James. | |||
Revision as of 19:38, 12 July 2026
September 16, 2017: Sarah Rejects an Allegation Involving a 14-Year-Old

In this Twitter direct-message exchange, an Onision detractor known as “The Josh” asks Sarah why she does not believe a source making an allegation about Onision.
Sarah responds:
“Because I know Greg and he would not do that. A 14 year old? He would have been disgusted.”
She then adds:
“Whoever your source is is lying to you.”
What the message directly shows: At the time of this conversation, Sarah did not merely say that she was uncertain or lacked information. She affirmatively stated that, based on personally knowing Onision, she believed he would be disgusted by the idea of sexual conduct involving a 14-year-old. She also stated that the person supplying the allegation was lying.
Why it matters: This statement was made before Sarah’s later grooming allegations. It is relevant because it shows that Sarah’s expressed view at the time was that Onision was opposed to sexual involvement with minors and would not engage in the conduct being alleged. The defense contends that this materially conflicts with the later claim that Onision was grooming or sexually targeting minors.
Source: Twitter direct-message conversation dated September 16, 2017, between “The Josh” and Sarah.

October 1, 2018: Sarah Describes Unreciprocated Romantic Feelings Toward Lucas
In this message, sent after Sarah had turned 18, Sarah tells Lucas that she understands he does not have romantic feelings for her.
Sarah writes:
“I’m not mad because you don’t have romantic feelings for me. It hurts but I know you have no control over that just like I have no control over my feelings.”
She also states:
“I’ve known nothing was ever going to happen for 2 years and I still stuck around because regardless of me being in love with you, you were always my best friend before anything else.”
Sarah explains that she had tried for years to overcome her feelings because preserving the friendship was important to her.
What the message directly shows: Sarah described herself as being in love with Lucas while acknowledging that Lucas did not return those romantic feelings. She also stated that she had believed for approximately two years that a relationship was not going to happen.
Why it matters: This message is relevant to the later grooming allegations because Sarah’s contemporaneous account describes the romantic interest as originating with her and being unreciprocated by Lucas. It also indicates that she expected rejection rather than believing that Lucas had promised, encouraged, or prepared her for a future romantic relationship.
Source: Text-message exchange dated October 1, 2018, between Sarah and Lucas.
October 1, 2018: Sarah States She Knew a Relationship With Lucas Was Never Going to Happen
In this message, Sarah explains that she had been in love with Lucas since she was 14 but kept those feelings secret because she believed revealing them could cause her to be removed from James and Lucas’s lives.
Sarah writes:
“I have known for two years it was out of the question not just when I was 16/17 but even after I was 18.”
She then states:
“Greg made it painfully clear multiple times that pigs would fly before I would ever come close to having a chance with you even after my 18th birthday.”
Sarah also says:
“I stayed because you’re my best friend and I love you.”
She explains that she did not begin the friendship for romantic purposes and had originally planned to keep her feelings secret indefinitely.
What the message directly shows
Sarah states that her romantic feelings toward Lucas originated with her, remained unspoken for years, and were not reciprocated. She also states that James repeatedly made clear that a relationship with Lucas would not happen, including after Sarah became an adult.
Why it matters
This message directly contradicts the claim that James or Lucas were cultivating Sarah for a future romantic or sexual relationship. Sarah’s own contemporaneous account describes the opposite: she concealed her feelings, expected rejection, and understood that James firmly opposed the possibility of a relationship.
October 1, 2018: Sarah States She Knew a Relationship With Lucas Was Never Going to Happen
In this message, Sarah explains that she had been in love with Lucas since she was 14 but kept those feelings secret because she believed revealing them could cause her to be removed from James and Lucas’s lives.

Sarah writes:
“I have known for two years it was out of the question not just when I was 16/17 but even after I was 18.”
She then states:
“Greg made it painfully clear multiple times that pigs would fly before I would ever come close to having a chance with you even after my 18th birthday.”
Sarah also says:
“I stayed because you’re my best friend and I love you.”
She explains that she did not begin the friendship for romantic purposes and had originally planned to keep her feelings secret indefinitely.
What the message directly shows
Sarah states that her romantic feelings toward Lucas originated with her, remained unspoken for years, and were not reciprocated. She also states that James repeatedly made clear that a relationship with Lucas would not happen, including after Sarah became an adult.
Why it matters
This message directly contradicts the claim that James or Lucas were cultivating Sarah for a future romantic or sexual relationship. Sarah’s own contemporaneous account describes the opposite: she concealed her feelings, expected rejection, and understood that James firmly opposed the possibility of a relationship.
Source
Text-message exchange dated October 1, 2018, involving Sarah, Lucas, and James.